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100 blup theoretically gives you more GP than 70 but the random factor becomes too large to make a real difference? Especially with high GP horses.
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Not thrilled at losing MA on mortal horses at 30, why change that? Seems unfair.
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hi does anybody know when the next promo start??
also does anybody know what it will be
thanks, Sam xxx
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sammyjo wrote:

hi does anybody know when the next promo start??
also does anybody know what it will be
thanks, Sam xxx
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The next promo will probably start on Thursday the 19th, it will be the potions promo. If you look on the bottom of page 392 there's more information and pictures. default smiley ;)
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Wait what, they cannot remove the MA from mortal horses!
I don't think it's a super great advantage, if a mortal horse older than 30 years has a MA so why removing it, if it doesn't really matter?
I love to use the ability to use black orchids at old mortal MA horses! I was planning to reach 500 years with one horse in a few month.
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Polkagris wrote:

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Wait what, they cannot remove the MA from mortal horses!
I don't think it's a super great advantage, if a mortal horse older than 30 years has a MA so why removing it, if it doesn't really matter?
I love to use the ability to use black orchids at old mortal MA horses! I was planning to reach 500 years with one horse in a few month.


Me too, although nowhere near 500 yet for me.
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Polkagris wrote:

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Wait what, they cannot remove the MA from mortal horses!
I don't think it's a super great advantage, if a mortal horse older than 30 years has a MA so why removing it, if it doesn't really matter?
I love to use the ability to use black orchids at old mortal MA horses! I was planning to reach 500 years with one horse in a few month.


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On German howrse they breed each week up to 100 skiller foals from a single mare for Grand Prix to get best IBS, means she will be 150+ years with MA. Would be a massive waste of APs if MA disappears with 30 years.
It probably doesn't matter on small servers like here (approx. 10 skiller foals bred, maybe 20 if bad gains), but on the big ones everyone seems to do everything excessively, no matter if it's breeding, farming, blupping and so on.

Same to the pass horse changes which will hit us anywhere in future. People getting 200 free passes a month or more from letting others killing pass horses for them. Doesn't matter for UK, but on big servers. People getting loads of free stuff -> Howrse dosen't like at all.
Changes probably appear because some people abuse these systems so excessively.

Don't like the new blup changes anyways, same for disappearing MA at 30.

They want people to blup to 100 to slow down breeding, forgetting most of them have already 100k APs and so on..Maybe they don't blup with 30 blup or 50 anymore..maybe they use 70 but after a short time, everything will be same again.


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On German howrse they breed each week up to 100 skiller foals from a single mare for Grand Prix to get best IBS, means she will be 150+ years with MA. Would be a massive waste of APs if MA disappears with 30 years.
It probably doesn't matter on small servers like here (approx. 10 skiller foals bred, maybe 20 if bad gains), but on the big ones everyone seems to do everything excessively, no matter if it's breeding, farming, blupping and so on.

Same to the pass horse changes which will hit us anywhere in future. People getting 200 free passes a month or more from letting others killing pass horses for them. Doesn't matter for UK, but on big servers. People getting loads of free stuff -> Howrse dosen't like at all.
Changes probably appear because some people abuse these systems so excessively.

Don't like the new blup changes anyways, same for disappearing MA at 30.

They want people to blup to 100 to slow down breeding, forgetting most of them have already 100k APs and so on..Maybe they don't blup with 30 blup or 50 anymore..maybe they use 70 but after a short time, everything will be same again.


Exactly my thoughts.
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Though the Germans seem to be quite happy with the BLUP changes. Talking about deceleration. Personally I doubt it will slow down the process.
ok, they will take twice as long for a blup when they go to 70 instead of 30, but what good it is for if they only need/do half the amount of blups than before?

As mentioned before, the impact of less than 100 will be larger than before, but the optimum will still be less than 100. Especially with top GP horses whose gain is more prone to the random factor than lower GP ones. If they would remove (or lower) the impact of that one and therefore giving us a real reason to blup to 100...

And removing the MA.. Means they will just breed another skiller mare -> New MA as cheaper than thousands of AP -> More passes/MA used.
Personally I have absolutely zero mortal horses over 30 years with MA so I'm not really bothered with that change but I'm in a minority here I suppose.
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Eleyii wrote:

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On German howrse they breed each week up to 100 skiller foals from a single mare for Grand Prix to get best IBS, means she will be 150+ years with MA. Would be a massive waste of APs if MA disappears with 30 years.
It probably doesn't matter on small servers like here (approx. 10 skiller foals bred, maybe 20 if bad gains), but on the big ones everyone seems to do everything excessively, no matter if it's breeding, farming, blupping and so on.

Same to the pass horse changes which will hit us anywhere in future. People getting 200 free passes a month or more from letting others killing pass horses for them. Doesn't matter for UK, but on big servers. People getting loads of free stuff -> Howrse dosen't like at all.
Changes probably appear because some people abuse these systems so excessively.

Don't like the new blup changes anyways, same for disappearing MA at 30.

They want people to blup to 100 to slow down breeding, forgetting most of them have already 100k APs and so on..Maybe they don't blup with 30 blup or 50 anymore..maybe they use 70 but after a short time, everything will be same again.


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Well Howrse certainly does not like people getting 200 free passes because the way they were attained is not allowed. However proving this is being done would be difficult. On the French server when the new pass horse system was being discussed it was stated the change could have been designed to stop such actions. It would not surprise me if that thought was one of many that created a need for the pass horse change.
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By Retired breeder, 17th October 2017 17:00:51
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I have AMAZING news!

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A lot of people complain about their inability to get divines unless they buy passes. However, in the upcoming cards promo we can get a Greyfell with EQUUS ONLY!!! If you participate in the card auctions and sales every day the metre at the top of the page will fill up and you can get access to a PRIVATE sale of a DIAMOND joker card. The only prize the diamond card contains other than puzzle pieces is a GREYFELL! You can buy it for roughly 2.5 million equus (may vary depending on the amount of equus you have) so start saving for your divine! And remember you need extra because you need to participate in auctions and direct sales (of cards) in order to get access to the private sale.
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it's not too difficult to get divines without buying passes. I mean, pass horses are sold for equus, for example. I have managed to get 4 divines and a wild with no passes, and there are players here who have loads of divines without spending money on the game. You just need to know when to do what at the right times. As for 2.5 million equus for a Greyfell....Well...
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By Retired breeder, 17th October 2017 18:39:59
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Does anyone know the next horse in horns of plenty?
Retired breeder wrote:

I have AMAZING news!


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The thing is you must fill the meter.

This could be possible in the smaller servers but you must buy 2 cards every other day to fill it. Knowing how difficult it is sometimes to buy the card you want for any reasonable price this is both a blessing that it is there but could create some frustration. That gives you 9 chances to fill it ( going on the basis of an 18 day promo). Buying bronze cards will not do it so you pretty well must buy silver and gold to get to 100%. These are the more costly cards. I estimate 900,000 to buy the gold ones and maybe 400,000 for the silver.

I have been buying them right from the start and we are half way through the main test server and my meter shows 60%. I had no competition on the test server so buying only gold and silver cards was easy for me. Live will be more difficult.
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Does anyone know the next horse in horns of plenty?


Nope. Those weekend-ly luck promos are never tested or published in advance so players will never be able to tell what divine will be in what BMI and when that happens.
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Shalassa wrote:

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100 blup theoretically gives you more GP than 70 but the random factor becomes too large to make a real difference? Especially with high GP horses.


Just run trials with high GP Legends and no significant difference for 100% blup. Trialled covers from 100x100% down to 89x90%. Cannot comment on lower % yet as no data. How significant it would be with lower GP horses I don't know.
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Really looking forward to the thought of cards we've had less than average promotions recently bit of a reminder that howrse may still like us default smiley xd
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@ Eleyii and Shalassa

Thx, I didn't know that! You opened my mind again. default smiley xd
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wait... so you need 100 elixirs to get Fenrir... does that mean you can literally just brew tonnes of them with red and blue potions, and be done with it, or is there something I've missed?default smiley (o)
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PalominoPinto

That is the direct route to the divine. However each time you brew an elixir it takes more time to do it ( I believe 15 minutes each time). Going by elixirs alone you should be able to brew about 60 odd free ( using boosters) and the rest will cost passes.

Spoilers are not needed as this is now current. I saw your post by mistake here as I usually look only in the current promo threads for promo questions I can help with..
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^ ok, thanks @Wingman
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Is there an estimated pass count for this promo if taking the direct route?
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PalominoPinto wrote:

Is there an estimated pass count for this promo if taking the direct route?


Again, best to use the prescribed topic for current promotions, ie here.

Promotions generally come in around 20-30 passes. As for whether an exact pass count could be made for this promotion, not exactly. Of course, it depends on the offers released over the 2nd and 3rd weekends, as well as luck, but 30 passes is a good benchmark for most promotions bar newly released ones, as Howrse is not always on the dime with regards to costing new releases.
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found a bit more information B___ C_____
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blup changes,
Overview
- A horse that is 10 years old and has 20 competition wins;
BLUP before: 100
BLUP now: 100
The genetic increase of the foals before: 0.23
The genetic increase of the foals now: 0.23

- A horse that is 5 years old and has won 0 contests;
BLUP before: 50
BLUP now: 8.28
The genetic increase of the foals before: 0.17
The genetic increase of the foals now: 0.04
Got from the Norwegian server, don't know how accurate it is, but it seems that if you blup to 100 now, and blup to 100 with the changes, the increase will stay the same
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I don't know if this is the correct place to ask this question, but does anybody know what the chances of howrse bringing Exmoor ponies here (to this server) is?
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