TRADES

we seem to be getting a fair amount of scam reports through at the moment

please remember the rules of not doing trades outside the official routes is there to protect YOU

Admin and us as mods cannot get things back to you and by agreeing to trades such as i'll give you x item and y horse for your horse called z it puts both players in the wrong. the scammer for doing the scamming, the scammed player for going into the trade

Unfortunately in this world not everyone is honest and we do not like seeing these things happen

so to summarise
horse trades... don't do them
item trades.... use the item exchanges

don't trade horses for anything other than passes and equus.
this is for your own protection, while we do sypathise things happen if things are done how you are advised to scamming won't happen.

if someone offers you a trade please remind them that it's not allowed or send through as a pm report for us to deal with
 
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By Retired breeder, 24th October 2016 08:23:36
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Scammers should be not allowed on games like these


very true
By Retired breeder, 24th October 2016 08:25:13
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ITisNowHere wrote:

An idea:
You know how you can trade black market items directly with other players for another item or equus, perhaps people could trade horses the same way? So you choose a player to trade with, then you either get a list of their horses or you can type the horse's name to choose it, with the same for choosing your own.
I understand that it's just an idea, but unless seriously flawed it could allow these trades without all the scamming, seeing as so many people want these trades to happen.


i wish that that would happen. it sounds pretty cool
By Retired breeder, 27th October 2016 12:46:24
Love the pumkin av and plz dont get mad just bc i dident wright about the topic
By Retired breeder, 27th October 2016 12:55:52
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storm2284 wrote:

we seem to be getting a fair amount of scam reports through at the moment

please remember the rules of not doing trades outside the official routes is there to protect YOU

Admin and us as mods cannot get things back to you and by agreeing to trades such as i'll give you x item and y horse for your horse called z it puts both players in the wrong. the scammer for doing the scamming, the scammed player for going into the trade

Unfortunately in this world not everyone is honest and we do not like seeing these things happen

so to summarise
horse trades... don't do them
item trades.... use the item exchanges

don't trade horses for anything other than passes and equus.
this is for your own protection, while we do sypathise things happen if things are done how you are advised to scamming won't happen.

if someone offers you a trade please remind them that it's not allowed or send through as a pm report for us to deal with
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By Retired breeder, 31st October 2016 10:10:48
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I do agree. It's horrible that people would want to do taht to innocent players. But there are some horrible people out there default smiley :$
By Retired breeder, 5th November 2016 07:40:29
I dont really understand whats wrong with doing trades outside of the howrse sistem. can anyone explain?
By Retired breeder, 5th November 2016 12:33:50
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Retired breeder wrote:

I dont really understand whats wrong with doing trades outside of the howrse sistem. can anyone explain?


because its wrong. there is no other explanation for it. to trade howrse items use the howrse facilities to do so. there are dishonest people out there, and scamming , although very wrong, is quite common. if something sounds too good to be true, it IS. use horse sales and item exchanges only.
By Retired breeder, 4th December 2016 15:58:07
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Oh that would be amazing if we could get a horse trade system going through horse.
I would love to be able to trade horses for horses instead of equus or passes as I don't have a lot of either.
By Retired breeder, 13th December 2016 18:29:30
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Retired breeder wrote:

Oh that would be amazing if we could get a horse trade system going through horse.
I would love to be able to trade horses for horses instead of equus or passes as I don't have a lot of either.


Or horses for BMIs... I have so many that I never use but don't want to give them away in the trades because I am a bit tight and think the exchanges don't get enoughdefault smiley ;)
By Retired breeder, 15th December 2016 17:30:23
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ITisNowHere wrote:

An idea:
You know how you can trade black market items directly with other players for another item or equus, perhaps people could trade horses the same way? So you choose a player to trade with, then you either get a list of their horses or you can type the horse's name to choose it, with the same for choosing your own.
I understand that it's just an idea, but unless seriously flawed it could allow these trades without all the scamming, seeing as so many people want these trades to happen.

That's such a good idea. I wish that would exist.
By Retired breeder, 17th December 2016 15:43:38
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scammersdefault smiley (n)
By Retired breeder, 17th December 2016 16:53:09
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Retired breeder wrote:

Scammers should be not allowed on games like these


"Allowed" implies that Howrse condones or looks the other way while scammers do whatever they want. They don't. Scamming *isn't* allowed on Howrse, but rule breakers exist everywhere and all the mods and admin can do is sanction them when they break rules. Players, however, can be proactive about preventing scams by not trading outside official routes - it is impossible to be scammed if you stick to using the sales and exchanges as they were meant to be used.
By Retired breeder, 21st December 2016 01:04:51
if i get cought doing a trade outside of the howrse system will my account get banned/suspended or will i just get a warning?
Retired breeder wrote:

if i get cought doing a trade outside of the howrse system will my account get banned/suspended or will i just get a warning?


Ask the people who actually deal with these situations and hand out those punishments; the moderators.
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By Retired breeder, 11th January 2017 22:36:52
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ITisNowHere wrote:

An idea:
You know how you can trade black market items directly with other players for another item or equus, perhaps people could trade horses the same way? So you choose a player to trade with, then you either get a list of their horses or you can type the horse's name to choose it, with the same for choosing your own.
I understand that it's just an idea, but unless seriously flawed it could allow these trades without all the scamming, seeing as so many people want these trades to happen.



GOD that would be soooooooooo cool if that happened!!default smiley :odefault smiley (y)
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scammersdefault smiley (n)

yeah default smiley (n)
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By Retired breeder, 22nd February 2017 10:40:39
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By Retired breeder, 25th February 2017 19:27:08
ITisNowHere wrote:

An idea:
You know how you can trade black market items directly with other players for another item or equus, perhaps people could trade horses the same way? So you choose a player to trade with, then you either get a list of their horses or you can type the horse's name to choose it, with the same for choosing your own.
I understand that it's just an idea, but unless seriously flawed it could allow these trades without all the scamming, seeing as so many people want these trades to happen.

BUT! you can with reserved sales!
ponyclubmember365

Reserved sales doesn't allow for trading horses, just selling them for equus or passes, which is where the scams come in.
My suggestion would allow for horses to be 'swapped', so instead of reserving a horse for 500 equus and have hope that the receiver will take the horse then give you the promised BMI or horse (again, this is going around howrse's system and is the reason why scams like these are happening), you could arrange to sell your horse and then select one of theirs to trade, like in the black market.
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By Retired breeder, 17th May 2017 14:17:37
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I hate when some of us innocent people who want to just have fun and play the game get scammed by others.

I was thinking that we should have a trading system where it doesn't let you press trade until you both have put something in a box and if you want the opposite to pay for what they are getting from you they can type the amount of money they want you to pay for the item so then it can be scam free, but if a hacker was somehow able to glitch it then it would send an email to the owners of the site and they can find the account and maybe be locked out for a couple of days.

But if anyone could take the ideas into consideration we could have a much safer trading system here on howrse and hopefully we can all enjoy our time trading on here scam free.

When I hear about others getting scammed online it makes me sad to think someone would want to steal hard earned achievements, equipment and lots more from a totally innocent person who probably though they could trust you.

Some trolls aren't funny either unless it's planned and your allowed by the other person.
I also think that if when we did trade by everyone before they trade they have a bar which shows a history of trading and if they scammed anyone or not.

Hopefully we can be happier sooner. Hope everyone here on howrse has a nice day today. default smiley (y)

Be careful for scammers default smiley (n)default smiley ;)default smiley :o
By Retired breeder, 30th July 2017 18:42:30
0-0 I feel so bad, I didn't know trades weren't allowed on howrse and I've done about 5 trades (horses for horses) without knowing. Usually what I do is message the person and we agree on a set amount [usually 1000e] that way if the other person fails to put up the horse for sale [i get nervous that that'll happen] we have at least 1000e to make up for the loss.
By Retired breeder, 22nd August 2017 16:42:25
Why dont horses and Ageing points and the such just get added to the exchange system then?Why are we making a problem out of something that could easily be solved?I feel like people should be responsible for their own decisions,which means if they trade in a way which interferes with the system,thats their own personal decision and can only blame themselves if they get scammed.Again though,I dont see any problem with trading your items/horses with someone you know and trust.
Retired breeder wrote:

I feel like people should be responsible for their own decisions,which means if they trade in a way which interferes with the system,thats their own personal decision and can only blame themselves if they get scammed.


Each person IS responsible for their own actions. If the trade goes wrong then they lose. The admin or mods can't undo the trade. Great if you know and trust someone but too many times friendships end and many because of misunderstandings or one friend not happy with the actions of another friend.

Not only is it against the rules if trafficking is involved (if passes or BM items involved ) but many times one person disagreement with another spills out in the forums and in PMs and that is where Howrse staff will get involved, sometimes with sanctions.
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